The BBC will probably never show this again. Watch to see the extent of media lies, racism and the anger of youth.
Reporter: Are you shocked by what you see now outside?
Darcus Howe: No. Not at all. I have been living in London for 50 years. There’s so many different moods and moments. But what I was certain about, listening to my grandson, and my son, is that something very very serious was going to take place in this country. Our political leaders have no idea. The police have no idea. But if you look at young Blacks, and young whites, with a discerning eye, and a careful hearing, they have been telling us and we would not listen, that what is happening in this country, to them, is— what is —
Reporter: If i can just stop you for a moment—you say that you’re not shocked—does this mean that you condone what happened in your community, last night?
Howe: Of course not! What would I condone it for? What I’m concerned about more than anything else, there’s a young man called Mark Duggan. He has parents, he has brothers, he has sisters, and two yards away from where he lives, a police officer blew his head off. Let me finish—[inaudible due to reporter interrupting]
Reporter: Well Mr Howe, we have to wait for the official (???) before we can say things like that. We don’t know what’s happened to Mr Duggan. We have to wait for the police report on it. If I can take you on a little bit, you’re talking about young people, your grandson
Howe: [keeps trying to speak and gets interrupted] They have been stopping and searching young Blacks for no reason at all. I have a grandson, he’s an angel, and he began to [???] when the police slapped him up against the wall, and searched him. I asked him the other day, if he had the sense that something was going seriously wrong in this country. I asked him how many times have the police searched you. He said papa, I can’t count there’s so many times.
Reporter: Mr Howe, that may well have happened and if you say it did I’m not going to gainsay you. But that is not an excuse to go out rioting and cause the sort of damage that we’ve been seeing over the past few days.
Howe: Where were you in 1991 in Brixton? I don’t call it rioting, I call it an insurrection of the masses of the people. It is happening in Syria, it is happening in Clapton, it’s happening in Liverpool. It’s happening in Port of Spain, Trinidad. And that is the nature of the hysterical moment. There is, it takes—
Reporter: [interrupting] Mr. Howe, if I can just ask you, you are not a stranger to riots yourself, I understand, are you? You have taken part in them yourself?
Howe: I have never taken part in a single riot. I have been on demonstrations and ended up in a conflict. And have some respect for an old West Indian negro, instead of accusing me of being a rioter. (???) Have some respect!